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ChairmanDonald TrumpHe complained that an ABC News interviewer was not “being very friendly” when he refused to support the president’s claims about a Maryland father who was deported by mistake.

During an interview on Tuesday with Terry Moran to mark the first 100 days of his second term as president, Trump insisted thatKilmar Abrego Garcia, who was mistakenly deported to the brutal Mega Prisbin of El Salvador, on March 15, he had a “MS-13” tattoo over his knuckles.

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Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a Salvadoran migrant who lived in the U.S. legally with a work permit and was erroneously deported to El Salvador in March.

“There is a dispute about that,” said Moran, trying to move on to the next theme.

“Wait a minute. Wait a minute,” Trump opposed. “He had” MS-13 “in his knuckles, tattooed.”

“I had some tattoos that are interpreted in that way,” said Moran. “But let’s move on.”

Earlier this month, TrumpPosted a photo on social networksFrom the hand of Kilmar Abrego García that shows four tattoos: a marijuana leaf, smiling face, cross and skull. In the image, the numbers and the letters “M-S-1-3” were digitally added to each tattoo to argue that the symbols were a code to indicate the membership of the gangs.

Donald Trump.
Donald Trump shared a photo with the letters and numbers “M-S-1-3” digitally aggregate on the tattoos of Kilmar Abrego García. Social Truth/Donald Trump

However, experts have said that tattoos are not associated with Mara Salvatrucha, a criminal gang that originated among Salvadoran immigrants in Los Angeles in the 1980s. The gang spread to Central America when its members were deported after the saving civil war ended in the early 1990s.

Experts in criminal justice saidCBS newsIt is known that the members tattoo the colloquial name of the gang “MS-13” in their bodies, together with images of horns of the devil. But a community activist who had worked with gang members for more than 25 years said he had never seen a member of a gang with the tattoos of Nudillos of Abrego García.

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Kilmar Abrego Garcia tattoo
Criminal justice experts say that Kilmar Abrego García tattoos are not associated with MS-13. Photographic illustration of The Daily Beast/X

A former gang member turned into a teacher told CBS that he had consulted the current gang members, and even did not believe that tattoos were presented to MS-13.

“Wait a minute. Terry. Terry, Terry,” Trump said during Tuesday’s interview, refusing to move on.

“I didn’t have the letter” M-S-1-3, “said Moran.

“Says” M-S-1-3 “,” Trump insisted.

“That was Photoshopped,” Moran said.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a Salvadoran migrant who lived in the U.S. legally with a work permit and was erroneously deported to El Salvador in March.
Kilmar Abrego García and his family, who are American citizens, have denied that he is a member of a gang. AUBRAGO GARCÍA/FAMILY ABREGO GARCÍA/REUTERS

When Trump shared the photo for the first time on April 19,Internet detectives arguedIt was misleading because Trump was not clear that the image had been digitally altered to include the supposed gang “context”.

The president’s online defenders replied that it was obvious that the letters and numbers had been added to illustrate the president’s claims. Trump’s exchange with Moran, however, seemed that Trump believed that the letters and numbers were part of the original tattoo.

“Is that photoshop? Terry, you can’t do that,” Trump told Moran.

“Hey, they are giving you the great rest of their life,” he continued. “You’re doing the interview. I chose you because, frankly I never heard from you, but it’s fine. I chose you but you’re not being very friendly. He had a” MS-13 “” tattoo.

“We will accept to disagree. I want to move on to something else,” said Moran.

“Terry. Terry. Do you want me to show you the photo?” Trump said.

Donald Trump speaks to Terry Moran in the Oval Office.
ABC News Terry Moran repeatedly tried to move on to the issue of Ukraine, but the president was not having it. Screen capture/ABC News

Moran said he had seen it, and repeated again that Abrego García only had tattoos that can be “interpreted” as evidence of gang membership. He tried to convert the issue of conversation into the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, but Trump was not having it.

The Administration has tried to justify the deportation of Abrego García, a migrant from El Salvador to whom an immigration judge had granted a form of legal protection called “retention of the elimination order”, saying that he is a “terrorist” and a member of the notorious MS-13 gang.

The 29 -year -old is married to an American citizen and worked full time as a sheet metal when he was suddenly arrested and deported without being allowed to appear before a judge.

He has no criminal record, and no court has found him as a member of a gang. Instead, Trump’s officials have offeredFaint evidenceOf the “membership” of MS-13 of Abrego García, including tattoos.

“No, no. Terry. Terry,” Trump insisted. “No, no. No, no. I had” m-s “as clear as possible, not” interpreted. “That is why people no longer believe in the news, because …”

Democratic Senator Chris Van Hollen meets Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a man wrongly deported to El Salvador by the Trump administration, in an image released April 17, 2025.
Democratic senator Chris Van Hollen flew to El Salvador in mid -April and managed to meet Kilmar Abrego García. Senator Chris van Hollen through x/via reuters

At that time, Moran, who had responded to Trump’s previous excavations with a smile, gave birth to the type of deep sigh that the parents of young children know well.

He pointed out that the word “MS-13” does not appear in any of Abrego García’s photos that have been taken since he was deported to El Salvador.

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“Terry!” Trump intervened.

“Ukraine, sir,” Moran begged.

“Has” MS-13 “in his knuckles, okay?” Trump said. “You are a bad service. Why don’t you say,” yes, he does it “and happens to something else?”

“He is disputed,” Moran replied. “Ukraine.”

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